*notes the irony of them talking about unbound 10* weapons when you can't sell/trade them in the first place.

And the nightmare-ish 41+ level up requirements were true after all. How is the exp in VHard? Can't play atm.

subclasses are not on this patch ?

Ranger got Standing Snipe 2 and trap vision. *-*

Ranger got Standing Snipe 2 and trap vision. *-*

Gunner got Automate Deadline which seems to be the same as Automate Halfline except it triggers at 25%. Odd that they gave that to Gunner rather than Hunter who actually has the life to go from 100% -> 25% unlike the Gunner who usually doesn't and will simply go from 100% -> 0% .

Techer got Element Weak Hit, Wind Mastery 2, Light Mastery 2, and Dark Mastery 2.

Ranger also got Ability Up 3.

Force always had Tech Charge Advance 2, you should take that off the list Ricardo.

can't*

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deadline slayer……………

shit just got real.

@valleytrax -

that's not drop rate. that's how much elemental attribute rares come with. we all wish it was droprate.

Gunner is waaaay more fluid, not sure if you want to post this up Ricardo but it seems like the gear doesn't drop immediate to 0 after being hit. There's timed attacks added to the secondary dodge, and the timed attack circle for normal attacks has been dropped drastically in time. I can shoot in midair now for an entire battle now vs before it was only about 5 seconds.

@zoku yes

Just hit level 41 gunner.. requirement for level 42 = 2.8 million exp… near twice my current total exp… not sure if glitch.. or intended…

some jp person charted out the cost. the level requirement curve goes batshit insane. I think they intend to not have anyone but no-lifers and people who buy lots of EXP boosts reach 50 within the rest of the year or something. I haven't seen a game where you hit that "to gain the next level you need more EXP than it took to go from level 1 to where you are" point since SMT:imagine, and at least there it was limited to the last few levels to 99. I do hope the jp playerbase develops a spine and complains about some of the hairbrained decisions made with this update.

on very hard forest… garuf gives 87…the bigger ones give 90~ monkies give about 80, rolling dudes about 180 and interrupt events average 1000-1500, 2000 if its a red destruction … reaching LEvel 42 seems just quite the long term…I averaged about 30k EXP in 80 minutes…. ;_;

the problem is the "it can't be helped" mindset that a lot of people get. like the people not arguing against sakai's decision to screw people's income while doing nothing about the rich folk charging stupid amounts for things. the whole "why bother trying to rock the boat when nobody will listen to what I say anyway" mentality.

You mean NO ONE has spoken up about the BS meseta nerf? Japanese gamers love to complain on the internet as much as western gamers, and still ON ONE has complained about this huge, pointless nerf?

Well then, allow me to bitch on their behalf:

Money nerfs do nothing to fix the "Economy." Why? Because real world economics do not apply to MMOs. Game devs need to get that in their collective heads. I remember when they pulled this nonsense on Vindictus. You know what happened? The amount of botters and cheaters increased by quite a bit. The prices on the marketplace WENT UP as a result. PSO2 already has a number of botters/cheaters (why do you think these nerfs REALLY got handed down?). Slowing the grind down to a halt only makes people want to look for artificial ways to fatten their wallet and speed up the exp gains. Vindictus did try to fix their money nerfs, but by that time, it was already too late. Too many people had already started their cheating and they weren't willing to give it up and go legit.

There.

Now a japanese gamer just needs to copypasta that and send it to Sekai. I'd do it myself, but JP doesn't listen to western gamers.

@Meseta Rant, actually alot of JP players are for the meseta nerf not against it from what a friend of mine who knows fluent Japanese has told me from talking to the JP players.

Anyone know how to fix a corrupted download file?

If anyone is wondering, here's a chart I found on them image boards.

http://goo.gl/EYMr5

As Mazarushi said, I am also hearing of some changes to Twin Mechguns with this update.

Wow, the new skills add more to the choices available; however I can't help but feel the melee classes got the bulk of it. And Automate Deadline for Gunner, soooo 25% instead of 50%….why? We're more likely to die than a Hunter, lol. *smacks SEGA*

@left Handed Hero if they had made gunners 50% then being hunter/gunner would mean you had 100% thats if they stack.

Yes there's more, but they never said how much more.

I'm not sure if it's only me… but from what I've been seeing, it's not like prices have been going down with this Meseta nerf. I highly doubt the 2 million Mesta gacha items are going to go down because Sega decided to give out less money. Will someone please explain the point of this? Because all I am is pissed right now after 2 hours of playing and 10k. >:(

missy> anyone with a shred of experience in the marketplaces of online games could tell you that prices don't go down just because people can't afford to buy. they did absolutely nothing to discourage high prices. all they did was make it so that you need to buy AC and get shop passes to make ends meet.

they lied about increasing the amounts of money bosses give, too.

this was never about the ingame economy. it was always about sega wanting to make more money off AC purchases; they've engineered a form of "pay to win" where you're not directly paying for your powerups, but you still have to pay if you want them in a reasonable timescale.

perhaps we should have foreseen this.what company DOESN'T guide their decisions with greed?

I'm not sure if it's only me… but I hate this Meseta nerf, I honestly don't see the point in it. I highly doubt the 2 million Meseta gacha items are going to go down because Sega decided to give out less money. Will someone please explain the point of this? Because all I am is pissed right now after 2 hours of playing and 10k. >:(

@ Someone – Yeah then our exp requirements are glitched according to that graph.. we're getting the requirements to go from level 42-43 a level early…

I agree, I've seen NO meseta increases from the bosses whatsoever. And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't anyone outside of Japan not allowed to buy AC anymore? So is it me, or does it seem like they're trying to phase non-Japanese players out?

@ Nilok – Only the current main class gets exp, sub doesn't get anything exp wise.

@Akuma I really hope that's some sarcasm

Sorry for the double comment, I meant the vocal minority of those using the English patch when I referenced those who refuse to communicate with the Japanese or even watch the cutscenes.

I can't understand a majority of what's said by the characters (only bits and pieces) but their body language and the tone of their voice conveys a good amount of what's going on in the cutscene. So at the very least I'm trying to fit in.

Personally, I don't mind the new restrictions so much. Are you guys forgetting how much money you can make from S-ranking the time trials every day? I can make nearly 3 million meseta per week doing those and nothing else.

@Nona

more like it's too hard to complete with <4 people

Only clones of your friends can have subclasses atm.

@Revalt I agree with you, as I am one of those people who have stated that I will not play the NA pso unless they are maintained, otherwise what's the point? I don't feel like waiting a year for the NA version to come out and then just get the same gachas for the next 2 years. It becomes boring. Plus, it's no shocker that PSO is not going to be popular in America, just like PSU wasn't. Its too iffy for me to spend all my time on a game that won't be maintained and eventually shut down. But still 12 hours later I'm still furious about this meseta nerf. For those of us still in the 15-30 bracket as stated before its impossible to gain any money. And I'm glad some of you are happy with the update, but I have not seen ANYTHING go down in price as much as 5 mill to 5k. I guess I'll have to wait it out? Besides time trials are there anyway other tips to making money?

if im reading this correctly, 4 billion exp to get from 49-50? is SoJ insane? even if i emptied my bank account getting AC itd take a good year or two to ding. i hope they update this update.

Yes, it's 47mil EXP from 49 to 50. However, many people have complained about the absurd increase in EXP requirements from 41 to 42 (hell, more like 41 to 50), so they are going to fix it with a patch today.

Relax, there are people with varying skill degrees. What's easy for you may not necessarily be the case for other people.

On the contrary, 3mil meseta per week from TA alone? Seems like I've been missing out!

now if they'd have a maint to make it less hellish trying to fund normal gameplay if you aren't subbing force/techter.

even if I just accept being locked out of the marketplace by way of not making enough in a reasonable timescale, being effectively locked out of improving the gear I have/find because it costs so much on top of the costs a bad run incur when not giving up choice and subbing fo/te to avoid using recovery items, is just utter bulldrek. especially in the case of rare weapons. sure, the attempts might not cost too much each, but the fail rate assures far more tries than is reasonable in an environment where not being able to afford shop passes means being bankrupt at all times.

@ -Z-

I completely agree, to be honest. It's going to take a very long time for prices to decay, sadly, considering how much money everyone else who is rich has farmed. An idea that had good intentions, that is to help the lower levels, was poorly executed and grossly miscalculated.

…actually, http://pso2.jp/players/news/?id=503 can someone who can translate better than a babelfish(google, excite, etc) go over this from the "NPCショップ" heading downward? the babelfish implies that they may be pushing the sale prices back up a little next week, but being google translate, this babelfish may be dead wrong.

So they're going to go back up a little? Now if we only knew what a little was.

Well, the plan is to drop the prices on almost everything that isn't player shop related. This eases the economy somewhat, but I still have doubts whether or not a full solution is in the works. Although that's just being cynical at this point in time, we can only hope for the best (seeing as how SEGA is really listening).

I do believe that Chase Bind only applies when you strike with your Rod as a Force. Using technics doesn't proc it (correct me if I am wrong, please.)

reading the description on the skills again, it appears both chase advance and chase bind only affect attacks that use S Atk. So this skill set doesn't seem as adaptable as I thought.

Too bad.