Now, you too can be a scarily happy killer robot!

“If you purchase 2000 or more AC from now until July 18th, you will receive 2 Rare Drop Boosts+50%”

Is that 2000 or more in total or 2000 or more in one go?

If you pre-registered for the Open Beta, then you should have already gotten your Rappy Mini Doll. Anyone who registered after June 21st, 2012 will get the Rappy Mini Doll covered under this campaign.

If you have a character already passed level 10, then you are covered by that campaign.

The game is free to play there is no need to buy it, just patch your client.

I think it really sucks that while you can get your room and my shop as seperate items from premium, the simple ability to trade is not available.

>500y for random outfit

ah, the classical screwover of cash shop fashion in the modern MMO period. just letting you specifically buy what you want isn't profitable enough after all. *sigh* I guess the people who compulsively gamble make up for the ones who aren't willing to shell out when it's not a sure thing what they're buying, in terms of profit. *sigh*

IamGodsGift> …. those two questions are, quite honestly, utterly stupid and you should know better than to think either would have a positive answer. when in the history of MMOs have you EVER seen a company do inter-branch player data transfer like that? as far as the management is concerned even though you CAN be playing on jp you shouldn't because you're a foreigner and thus should be playing on a foreigner server or not at all. and transfer of cash currency… are you out of your mind?

Those cash shop prices are a damn ripoff. I hope the cash shop sales underperform enough for them to lower it.

I thought Sega wasn't allowed to do this "random AC scratch" thing? It's a dirty move on their part – would be better if they just let us buy the items directly (at reasonable prices). If I recall, it's considered a form of gambling in Japan – a couple other Japanese games got in trouble for this last month by Japan's Consumer Advocate Agency. Wonder if they'll go after for Sega for this too.

Ricardo, the link to the catalog needs to be changed. Right now it leads to http://bumped.org/psublog/pso2-jp-ac-content-7420… instead of pso2.jp/players/catalog/ XD .

@Rayna372

"I hope that in Japan this really ends up putting a dent in the playerbase'

yes because that will clearly help a western release or help sega and the game in anyway.

You can complain about the prices all you want its not going to change a thing you are on they're server in the first place. Also the fact is KR and JPN games from what I play have 'high priced' cash sets or ect. If you don't like it don't put no money into it because its not going to change because players (who the game isn't for in the first place) get mad over it. The game was made for Japan in mind atm.

-Blaze

"yes because that will clearly help a western release or help sega and the game in anyway."

I'm looking at the bigger picture here, not only thinking about the Western Release but hopefully those prices will change by the time it reaches the states. obviously if people are turned off and they lose players from the ridiculous cash shop then they will be forced to do something, and if its for the better then hell yeah me and so many others didn't wait an extra year for them to screw the player base like this.

I'm not hoping to change anything but yeah I will complain about it because thats bullshit, dont charge me real cash for something that should be already IMPLEMENTED in the game for free! But hey you can dupe yourself into thinking you're getting a deal and give sega all that money for their "bonus" content.I love everything about this game, just sucks that the cash shop seems to be ruining a lot of great aspects that could keep it from being even better.

Yeah i'm not going to put any money into it except enough to buy me some extra characters maybe, but saying that the game was made with the japanese in mind (obviously) doesn't justify that its still expensive as hell, and i'm not complaining about the price difference between yen and USD, of course its always going to be a little bit more expensive, for 3000 AC it costs around 37.50 USD, thats just a ripoff for 2 months worth of premium access and a little bit of bonus content that should already be in the game! I guess i'm just shrewd for not wanting game companies to nickel and dime me for little things like this, i'm not even saying do away with the whole system just make some adjustments and make the prices a bit more reasonable, in total that makes this even more expensive than WoW and that game gives you two skill trees and you can respec with gold thats in that game, so there really is no excuse because WoW is a terrible game. something needs to be done

@Divs, yeah I've noticed. I think PSU was like 5000 yen or so, which is about $60, but the game sold here for $40, but they still need to change the system. Positively reviewed p2p games usually allow all items or equivalent items to be obtained through playing (usually lots of it) but offer a pay ability and that's what stinks. Even if they fix the prices, too much of this stuff is based on AC and gambling with AC. So far all I see meseta good for is restoratives, weps from shops, and grinding. All the main personal stuff is pay only :/

Honestly I wouldn't recommend buying items based on Yen anyway, especially if they do release a US version…could mean wasted money. There IS a language selection in the settings but still. Too risky if you ask me. To each his own I guess.

Pretty much Blaze. Pretty much.

Yet this system is stranded as we just said there and no one crying about it and calling for change when you have no say in it….lol you don't even know what the damn rates are going to be.

I think you guys have been missing the point, no ones saying sega should favor America over the JP players cause obviously the game wasn't intended at this moment for NA audiences. All we are saying is that the cash shop is ridiculously overpriced and flawed right now;

1. Being that its too expensive, even if you're using yen and you're a JP resident

2. The prices are on all the wrong things, like respeccing/extra characters/resetting mags/extra mags

i'm fine paying arcs cash for an XP booster, or to open a shop, or even the whole my room thing, but the fact that they are charging not just a little AC but a lot of it for some of the most basic things in an MMO is flat out absurd. But hey the game just barely is coming out so we'll probably see changes here soon.

Also on a side note I wouldnt even really mind paying some AC for the skill trees if they were a bit more interesting…its like the only abilities in their is stuff like strike up and max guard…you dont get any special tech's or cool aura's that i know of, its mostly all just stat bonuses and a few extra abilities…Ranger so far seemed to have the most interesting tree but thats pretty unforgiving to charge that much just for a respec especially if you mess up or you're testing out a build.

he meant standard…I had to read it a few times myself. Anyway I think Divs and a few others have asserted something worth investigating: Is this really a standard pricing model in japan? If that's really the case any argument we have about the prices and the value of anything is kinda out the window because our outrage at the pricing is based on our own standards and expectations – our own values. If the japanese are used to paying this much for frivolous content, we can't really fault SEGA for using the same structure everyone else is.

Bingo. Exactly my point Nilok, so does anyone want to pop out the proof that this is standard and no JP players are "crying" about PSO2's payment setup? When I see that I'll say ok. No assumptions. I say wait and see and until then you're entitled to your own opinions. That being said, don't bash somebody else for theirs because without proof yours is just as useless.

^ You can say whatever you want but that doesnt mean people believe you. I hardly think this is "standard" in japan, there have been a lot of p2p MMO's that have came out in Japan by big name companies that have failed miserably because either their cash model was bungus or the gameplay was just terrible, but more often than not its the game cash model thats going to turn everyone off. Its just like what Miz says, they are going to make meseta pretty much worthless other than getting items you can already obtain by farming or just getting restoratives – remember how that turned out in the first PSO? nobody traded with meseta everyone traded with photon drops, which was annoying as hell.

I doubt they'll make arks cash trade-able, but if they do that could cause a lot of problems.

I'm not going to fault sega if the japanese are used to paying this much for content that should already be accessible, but i'm pretty sure thats not the case.

So far all i've heard is just people defending a company for putting an expensive price tag on some bonus items simply because they can and thats "normal" over in japan.

I really dont care what standard you go by, if you're making an MMO and tell everyone its free to play, dont charge a ton of money for some of the key features that make it an MMO. They shouldnt force you to pay real money just for a respec or an additional character, rather they should just leave that option open if you dont have the Meseta to fork out. That way AC and Meseta are still both being used appropriately and you're not wasting your money on stupid things like respeccing and extra characters.

my point being, you're going to be spending close to 20 dollars on this game a month at least to get the best experience possible, and while some think thats worth it I personally do not, make the game free roam and I might consider it but the way it is right now thats just too much money for what they are charging and how much they are charging for it, i'm not gonna fanboy the shit out of this game and say "oh yeah i'm so grateful this game just exists so if i can pay 10+ dollars a month so can you' because thats the exact mindset they are capitalizing off of, I love PSO just as much as the next guy but i'm not gonna sell myself short on it until they fix a few things.

Lol not even going to go on with you I can name other MMOs that charge you for respec or extra outfits but yeah whatever you want to be butt hurt over it go right on a head ok.

No I can understand that is fine I just don't see why you are making a big deal over it when for one we shouldn't even be on the game but like I said w/e

let me ask u this how much 2 meals cost u? cuz 1300 yen(1 month premium) is about that of japanese.

u cant just convert to usd and say it's too expensive. this rate is set for japan and no where else.

oh btw im agree that the price they set is somewhat mess up.

buying a new skill tree or mag is cheaper than respec that old one = =a

I don't think what's being sold is bad. If they reserve AC only for "boost" and the likes items, they will have to sell a lot of it, because it would be the only income (boost items). Flooding the game with that would possibly make AC a "game breaker", meaning that if you don't buy AC, you'll be miles away from the rest and will need to farm and play 10x more to be "competitive".

Now I think the pricing is a bit too high on some stuff:

- a SINGLE skill tree reset = $10+ (but u NEED to have an extra tree to reset, making ur first reset = $15+) –> [W. T. H.]

- the Premium Set and AC scratches are a bit too high too (not that bad if you're payed in USD/Yen/Euro)

- Makeup counter should be a lil more lenient on the free options or at least be adaptive, meaning if u change only ur eye size (for instance) you'll pay less than 5+ bucks.

@ Nilok

I don't know if you played the Closed Beta, but there, the skill reset was for 1 tree of 1 class only and that's it. And you couldn't reset a skill tree if that was the only one you had for that class (or maybe you couldn't reset the active skill tree of any class). So you needed to buy a new one and then you could reset.

wait i take that back. it doesn't make sense for mag even if it respec all and it didn't even do that.

1 Yen = 1 AC

What's for us Western people? 1 AC = 1$

= =a what's so hard about this?

1 AC = 1.25 cent

@Anon. I played the CBTT, It just doesn't make sense to charge so much for a respec when a new tree costs less. In what universe would you ever want to pay more money to get less? Imagine ordering a pizza and being told it was $15 for a large cheese pizza, but $10 for a large supreme. Maybe in the CBT it only affected 1, but I have to think it affects all of them or why even put that there?

@ Soren. there's a guide on this very blog for buying AC with a US credit card . it takes no time at all if you already have an address linked to your sega ID. That aside, you idea of enjoyment and mine may be different, but unless you NEED 4 characters with a maxed out item pack and clothing of every type and color to have a good time, you're really not restricted. the core game is not locked out in any way. you can make a character, play through all the areas, buy from player shops and play with friends. what exactly are they limiting that RUINS the game for you and where do you get off raging that a game that you did not have to pay for in any way shape or form isn't letting you have perks for free too? What money have you spent on this game that gives you such a strong sense of entitlement?

@Nilok Yeah the price is ridiculous even being a "all tree" reset.

To enjoy the game myself, I think I just need the premium set, but on my currency that will cost more than 30 "mesetas" a month and that's more than twice what WoW charges (because it's localized already)…

A question about the character slots: If you delete a character, you need to pay AGAIN to create a new character on that slot? So… you don't really buy a "slot" you buy a "character creation pass" which can be used once and that's it???

It seems it works like that if my poor Japanese translation skills were correct.

That seems pretty underhanded. The more I hear about the "fine print" the harder it is to remain casually optimistic about some of this stuff.

Pay to get what you want (i.e. select the costume/hairstyle/item you want and pay for specifically that) = Yes, cash shop well done.

Pay to get a CHANCE to receive the item you want = Gambling, while it may be hot in japan, I definitely do not see that system making it to the US/EU, don't care what anyone thinks. It's just not gonna work over here.

Also, that's a cash shop poorly done, rigged to get more out of your cash than it should be. (While pissing off a small (or majority) part of your player base that realize they gave out so much money for a few silly items and an assload of useless items.)

Hell, it's the same shit Diablo III pulled, rigging the item drops, making them so low that it's easier to go buy the items with real cash at the RMAH than farm them endlessly.

Anyway, I have MORE than enough cash to try and scratch all items I want from the cash shop. I'm simply not going to because I know I will be losing a lot of the money on items I don't even want. And I'm fairly certain there are more like me out there.

Sega shouldn't have to change their Cash Shop for us, but I dare bet they'll have people happily buy stuff off the cash shop if they could select the items they want rather than having to gamble away more money than you should.

In the end, happy cash shop purchasers = higher volume than those who HAVE to gamble their stuff into their inventory. Sadly, the majority of the happy cash shop buyers won't be doing the gambling for long, if at all.