Happy Wedding!

Ah this couldn't have come at a better time! I am so excited! However just a few questions.

"You can now reach Level 40 by completing a client order." Does this mean we have to unlock the new level cap by a CO, or what does this mean?

Also how much does it cost to get AC, and what do premium members get? I know you will probably put up a guide on this soon i am just curious.

Very excited to hear about the mag evolution, I have been starving mine since he refuses to level up past 99.

Overall i cant wait!

@psokid

You get access to

My Room

My Shop

Premium block

More fun points

and item trade

That's what premium gets you.

I'm actually not that excited about the update currently. It seems there's going to be problems with buying exactly what you want and the system is rigged to get to you to spend $50 if you want to buy only $35 worth of items and such. I'll also be waiting for people to experiment on their mags and figure out the "combined' evolutions so I can just follow a formula to get my own.

Now all we need is this game in english . . .

any word of an IP block?

So no paypal? What will be the best way to purchase AC then?

if you pay for premium you get your room, shop additional storage and a few other perks. if you don't want to pay for premium, you have to pay a monthly fee for your room, yes.

seeing as you pay nothing for the game or to play online though, I hardly see this as an issue. consider it a subscription fee and don't give it another thought. 3600yen is just over $45 US which would be the same as paying $15 a month to play. That's pretty standard for a subscription.

Just wondering, I'm not really skilled in the credit card ways, but do they work overseas normally? Or is that an added feature or something?

Guess I'll be the dark shadow of this conversation. I wouldn't consider this a sub fee seeing as I still have to pay separate for aesthetics and other features (mag resetting, reset your skill tree etc) that I was able to get via special item or a mission with a $10 sub fee. $16 a month with features still outside the umbrella of coverage is atrocious when you compare, nevermind the fact that you got 4 character slots instead of having to pay 6$ for each extra. Heck, you got 6 months for $50 before, now you get about half that. I'm not comparing the quality of the games or stating whether or not it's worth paying, I'm just saying this is certainly not like a sub fee unfortunately. And for those of you who are thinking "you're not calculating the cost of the game" think of it this way: Games $40 subs $10, in 5 months with a monthly premium account you'll have caught up to buying the game ($40 (first month included) + 10 x 4 and $16 x 5 = $80) everything after that is when you start paying extra. I don't know…anybody who really likes this series is probably not too happy about the pricing seeing as they were likely planning to pay for the premium account like a sub fee. $16 alone is steep compared to Sega's past pricing, but to not even have everything included in it is…yeah I don't know. Guess we'll see.

@Nilok

"…they should cut most of their prices by 33-50% paying more than 1 dollar for a scape doll is a bit much I’ll buy the essentials and see if they can figure out a better pricing schedule after that. I enjoyed the +100% exp, but they want $2 for 30 minutes. That’s highway robbery."

It's one thing they want to make as much money as they can, It's another to capitalize on the players who actually want to pay SEGA for making such an awesome game. Not all of us who will be paying are "whales", SEGA! Remember that!

It's sad enough that there is still no sign of localization, let alone an English translation. This would only be forgivable if they decided to lower their prices once they accumulated enough moneys to be able to localize elsewhere.

We gave them almost a whole more year to make the game better, the least SEGA can do is address the NA/EU fans that PSO2 will be coming west! I will give SEGA some money, though I won't be playing the game until an English translation comes out.

*sigh* more time trial shit? what, did they not get enough frustration out of people already? at the least these new ones aren't random, but where does that leave the stuff that you're on a too-tight timeschedule with a random and unknown map with random and unknown spawns that's already in the game, and presumably going to continue for every other bit of progression, resulting in anyone whose connection or game performance is less than stellar having to overlevel to hell and back to progress? and I suppose these new time attacks will still expect you to be able to kill everything in your way and still have time… *sigh*

agreed on scapedolls being overpriced. it's kinda lame that they're cash at all, really.

hope nobody's suprised about them not accepting paypal. jp game companies seem to despise it. too FILTHY GAIJIN for the xenophobic old farts in upper management, I'm sure. accepting credit cards directly on the other hand is a concession to the credit bureaus owning the world; not accepting them would likely be suicide. still very annoying, of course; isao admits to accepting it, but sega I suppose would rather be obnoxious.

no underground lilipa mines :<? no tranmizer?

Is the game currently down? I cant access it right now

@Mazarushi pass up what? you can't add a subscription to the price of the game. saying that is saying that you didn't ever expect to have to pay to play the game, to never have to pay for a subscription. That's not a realistic assertion. You may as well say you're mad they added a cash shop to the F2P, as though you were unfamiliar with the status quo.

How many MMO style games let you play for free once you buy the game? It's out there, but it's not common and shouldn't be expected, ESPECIALLY considering SEGA's track record. Online service hasn't been free since v1 on the Dreamcast, what you're now saying is you not only expected that to be different this time, but that everyone should have that expectation? To not have to pay for a sub? Sorry, it doesn't work like that. P2P you pay a sub. your model means you have to factor in a sub to the cost to play the game. F2P it's free to play. you don't pay a cent unless you want to. seeing as you can play the game and buy from player shops without restrictions and not pay a cent, you can't fault that side of it at all. The only thing we can fault them for is their pricing, which was both expected and unfortunate. I've seen enough F2P games to know what to expect.

and you're clearly not reading. what I'm saying. I mention two different kinds of "premium". Paying FOR a "premium ticket" for the features they're selling vs paying A premium as in paying an extra 25 cents per dollar to buy extras for a game that exists only in Japan. We're paying more than we would if it were in the US thanks to the US dollar to yen conversion. I hope that clears it up, cause I thought you of all people would have been able to follow what I was saying.

You're still doing your math backwards.

think we'll be able to play our jap characters in the eng release? prob not eh?

No more wait between phases? Game WILL be up? I can gorge myself all I want until Sega blows up their servers?

Sign me up and ship me out. PSO2 addictions /on

I'm saying we can't base todays subscription prices one yesterday's games. subscription prices are higher now in a lot of games, so it's not unreasonable that they would charge more this time around. I fully anticipated having to pay $15 for a sub if the game had gone P2P. The conversion I'm talking about is that in many cases, we end up paying less than JP players for DLC. For example DLC for Blazblue Continuum Shift characters was 800 yen in japan but $8 here. it's not out of the question that we would end up paying $5 for 500AC when JP players pay 500 yen. Similarly, xbox players paid more than PS2/PC players for PSU. Someone posted above that they had to pay more for thei xbox sub, though in that instance he was in Canada iirc.

What I'm saying is you're using old pricing from an older game and saying that we should expect the price for a subscription to never change. I'm saying $15 is what you should have expected to pay from the start and that the $15-16 we have to pay for premium is also paying a premium for playing a JP only game due to the conversion, but I believe it would cost us less if we were actually buying AC in the US. I feel like you're getting confused on this point. I also said I think they should offer us a bit more for their premium set, I'm agreeing with you on that point, all I'm saying is that you seem stuck on this notion that a subscription price on a new game should be the same as it's predecessor, which is a logical fallacy.

What I'm saying is that they are limiting access to nonessential game features and charging what is essentially a subfee to gain access to those features. your agurment against this has been "it's not a sub fee cause it costs more than I paid to play PSU" That is the flaw in your reasoning.

You cannot compare the pricing scale of a new game to the pricing scale of an old game. Your argument would only be valid if this were still PSU and they switched it to F2P and then implemented these restrictions and prices in that same game.

The PS Vita and Android version of this game will be released some time after December or some time early of next year. Sega confirmed this and they did say a local version will be released during the E3 convention but are unsure of when.

The PS Vita version will be the same as the PC with both a online/offline mode. Though the only way to log in will be through PSN. The android version will still be connected to your account but in a offline mode. After completing a mission your items/stats will be transferred over to your online account.

Kinda feels like I shouldn't be adding anything here, but no, trading isn't essential. it's not like it inhibits access to the core game. All it does is prevent you from sharing loot. While it's something most of us feel compelled to have, you don't need it to play the game or get to new areas, gain levels or use you the skill tree. That's the definition of nonessential. You don't NEED it, you just want it.

And "everything" is too broad. In today's incarnation of PSU you pay a sub and they still have a cash shop, just like WoW. In fact, they use a F2P model not unlike what PSO2 is doing. you can play for free, but you can't trade or use your room (so no common box or player shop) and iirc a lot of content like certain special missions with increased drop rates are on a pay per use basis regardless of a subscription. At least with this model you can still use the player shops to buy items even if you don't pay for anything. you just can't post items to sell, and you have access to shared storage with nearly 7 times the capacity of the old common box.

**Re-read what you posted, yeah you can't trade for free. Like I said, my main focus is on this $16 being like a sub, not even really paying much attention to anything else honestly lol.

…so if I'm reading this right I'm seeing "the price is too high for what you're getting it should be lower" vs "the price is too high for what you're getting, you should give us more". Yeah sounds like the same idea to me lol. So long as we both know this is robbery that's fine with me. Good show.

Regarding the Skill Tree Reset Pass , has anyone used it before, or knows how to use it?

Had a hunch it would be so, Thank you very much for the advice !