Saturday March 30, 2013 06:46

Phantasy Star Online 2: Code Episode 2 Announced

Posted by Ricardo

Today at the Sympathy Concert, SEGA announced a new “expansion” to the PSO2 series titled “Phantasy Star Online 2: Code Episode 2.”  Dengeki and GameWatch had the pleasure to relay some information found in the trailer; here’s what we know so far:

PSO2 Code Episode 2 (Keywords)

  • Oracle’s Collapse
  • Arks Road/Lord?
  • Photoners
  • “Who is the real enemy?”
  • The Third Darkers
  • The Beginning and End of the Arks
  • New Race, New Planet, New Classes.
  • New Weapon Categories.
  • Coming this Summer!

PSO2 Thanks Festa

Phantasy Star Online 2 is having their first offline nation-wide event. The Phantasy Star Thanks Festa 2013 plans to commemorate the 1 year anniversary of PSO2 by holding events across Japan in five different cities.  SEGA will also be holding the Arks Grand Prix time attack tournament, more details to come in April.

Arks Grand PrixThe event schedule is as follows; June 9th in Tokyo, June 15th in Nagoya, June 29th in Fukuoka, July 14th in Osaka, and July 28th in Sapporo. It will conclude with the Arks Grand Prix finals in Tokyo on August 3rd, 2013.  We’ll add more details to this post once more information becomes available.

 

JukeBox Feature

Jukebox Menu

Shougai (a Japanese PSO fansite) got a chance to speak with Hideaki Kobayashi at the Sympathy Concert. There they learned of a new feature in the Jukebox that allows you to choose different variations of music. This can be noted in the Jukebox menu where the fourth option 曲譜を変える “change music” is currently disabled.

In the example Shougai provided; you can select from the Non-Battle, Battle, PSE Burst, and Rare Enemy variations of a stage’s theme. This would also apply to the Vol Dragon’s theme where you could choose between its magma and non-magma variations.

 

Sympathy Concert Track List

01.Fanfare
02.Phantasy Star Medley for Sympathy 2013
03.Phantasy Star Online OPENING THEME ~The whole new world~
04.Can still see the light ~Phantasy Star Online ENDING THEME~
05.”IDOLA” have the immortal feather & the divine blade Medley
06.World with me ~Phantasy Star Online EPISODE2 ENDING THEME~
07.”LET THE WINDS BLOW” – Theme of Phantasy Star Online EpisodeⅢ-
08.Underworld -equilibrium-
09.Phantasy Star Zero
10.たいせつなもの
11.Save This World – Orchestra Version -

12.Save This World – νMIX -  
13.Living Universe
14.Go Infinity
15.Burning Hearts ~炎のANGEL~
16.Ignite Infinity

17.Title – PSO2 -
18.Stage Medley – PSO2 -
19.Dark Ragne
20.Big Varder & Quartz Dragon Medley
21.Falz Arm & Dark Falz Elder Medley
22.For Brighter Day – Orchestra Version -

87 Responses to Phantasy Star Online 2: Code Episode 2 Announced

nyaa

March 30th, 2013 at 8:16 am

the new race probably the beast…since that’s the only one that’s not here yet

Ricardo

March 30th, 2013 at 8:21 am

It’s more likely to be Dewmans since they’re already in the data.

Arika

March 30th, 2013 at 8:27 am

If this was to be on march 31st, or April 1st then I would not believe it. but it is March 30st. so I can guess this is safe information?

Arika

March 30th, 2013 at 8:27 am

nvm, I just look at Degeki link. it is there for real too.

nyaa

March 30th, 2013 at 8:34 am

oh ….ok..

AvidLongTermGamer

March 30th, 2013 at 8:40 am

Awesome news, very excited for this. I hope they add Twin Sabers and Slicers.

El

March 30th, 2013 at 8:47 am

yeah, its Dewmans, Katanas and Composite bows, not sure about classes tho

PokeminMaster

March 30th, 2013 at 9:46 am

Where did Katanas and Composite Bows come from???
I saw it on the Arkive as well, but are they mentioned in the code or something? XD

TaigaUC

March 30th, 2013 at 9:56 am

They were data mined a while back.

lokinmodar

March 30th, 2013 at 10:15 am

Certainly dewmans, katanas, and copound bows. And something related to Gal Da Val was data-mined earlier too…

Arika

March 30th, 2013 at 10:21 am

^
Can you tell about datamine information on the new planet?

Echidna

March 30th, 2013 at 10:38 am

Is it a misfire? Its still two days until 1st of April in this timezone.

Ricardo

March 30th, 2013 at 10:49 am

Too early, Japan’s April fools starts tomorrow at 11:00 AM Eastern.

BTez|oldschewl

March 30th, 2013 at 1:13 pm

An announcement like this at the Symphony Concert being an April Fool’s Day gag would be some epic poor taste, wouldn’t it?

-Z-

March 30th, 2013 at 1:19 pm

oracle’s collapse? that could be interesting, seeing as it’s been floating behind the fleet being irrelevant thus far. photoners… kuna was talking about that, wasn’t she. hm. third darkers… well, we do have at least two kinds to go, judging from that gathering cutscene. beginning and end of ARKS… we’ve been getting bits about the start of things (thanks kasura II, you blabbermouth). the majority of that info coming to light would definately start trouble in the fleet, given.

and on that note I find it a question just how much of both sides’ stories to take at face value. the founders of ARKS built it upon lies, but can we trust Apprentice to not have been going for headgames? I find it hard to swallow that a universe-destroying cosmic horror is going to have good reason to be honest with it’s enemies,

anyway. patiently waiting on the bows.
as for bringing up the dewman-related pointers, didn’t someone see beast ones too at one point? sega could of course throw a curveball and make something new in place of either of those. it’ll probably not make much more difference what race is added, of course, than what’s already here. mostly just new choices for customizing one’s virtual paper doll.

arika> I don’t recall much in the way of info. only the mention of an area labelled Coast, and people commenting on area image stuff reminding them of that “gal da val” that I assume is a PSO1 holdover. we know it’s not part of lilipa because A: the surface of lilipa is a dustball, and B: more importantly there’s a seperate (but not yet distinctly named) thing for lilipa environment 3.

I’m sure most of us interested are waiting for more juicy stuff to be datamined.

Ricardo

March 30th, 2013 at 1:37 pm

Collapse could either mean a societal collapse or actual destruction.

Revolt

March 30th, 2013 at 2:04 pm

The new class is OP and needs balance adjustments. And the new weapon PA’s suck. Also the game is too hard and needs to be easier. Waiting for real updates, a.k.a. Costumes.

Anon

March 30th, 2013 at 2:08 pm

“Oracle’s collapse” O.O’…
Run to the hills!

Zing

March 30th, 2013 at 2:19 pm

Seems like C-Mode and improving the overall difficulty of the game slipped under Sega’s radar once again. Still waiting for REAL content, this shit is turning a great franchise into Costume Online 2.

Runia

March 30th, 2013 at 2:20 pm

@Revolt also the new classes’ damage is RNG based, and so is the damage the new enemies do. What is this

ExInsomnia

March 30th, 2013 at 2:57 pm

Oracle’s Collapse : Matoi becomes a Falz. Calling it now.
Arks Road/Lord : Road trip on Lillipan Desert, riding in a vehicle with a bunch of dumb Lillipan drivers while fighting flying Darkers. PLEASE DO THIS.
Photoners
“Who is the real enemy?” : Microsoft.
The Third Darkers : Something bigger than Falz?
The Beginning and End of the Arks : Stranded on a new planet after the ship crashes?
New Race, New Planet, New Classes : As everyone’s been saying; Dewman, Katanas (why?), and Bows. Planet? I’m hoping for a dreary swamp.
New Weapon Categories : Same as above.

I hope they add more despair into the story. Right now it’s too cheery and simple. Have one of those female Falz destroy the big ship, strand the group in the middle of an inhospitable planet, and be trapped there with limited travel tech.

Echidna

March 30th, 2013 at 3:02 pm

In before photoners are rappy themed race, and new playable race is dragonkin.
How Sakai on a scale from 0 to Sakai would that be?

Revolt

March 30th, 2013 at 3:23 pm

@Zing I hope you are kidding, this game is never going to be that way. SEGA’s goal is to make money, so their priority is pleasing all the casuals, who want the game to be easier. If it gets harder they complain and quit, so they have to keep them in order to milk cash from them. Unless a good number of people want it to be harder (which seems unlikely since every update things get easier and easier) it’s not going to happen.

Remius

March 30th, 2013 at 3:30 pm

New races? The 3 current races are so identical that if they were to add a new race there would be no appeal to the current ones. Otherwise we’ll end up with another Human/Newman vs. Beast/Cast issue like PSU had, where half the game has awesome special moves and the other half gets shafted. One or two racial perks and unique animations between races is what they need.

And this story can’t handle despair. There is no amount of serious that could possibly be added to this story that could possibly be believable.

The final boss was an army of floating hands.

That managed to destroy entire fleets of ships….and was then killed by 12 people with guns and swords.

And then he turned into a man wearing a trenchcoat and pink hair.

And then spawned some chick with 2-toned hair.

AND THEN SPAWNED 2 LOLI TWIN FALZ GIRLS LOL

This storyline doesn’t take itself seriously haha

Remius

March 30th, 2013 at 3:50 pm

Anyway, I highly doubt this “Episode II” will be anything serious. By the time AotI came along PSU had double the amount of weapons and triple the amount of classes and missions avaliable. PSO EpII added 4 (real) new classes, EpII, more battle mode stuff and like 20 something Cmode areas.

This sounds like it’s just slapping “PSO2 EPISODE II” onto its title for more nostalgia and visual flair. Kind of the same way they pile nerfed PSO weapons into every update. And spam “A Whole New World” everywhere, something PSO/PSU didn’t even do to itself.

If they would at least announce that they were using this chance to severely revamp the current meta and fix the glaring issues with this game’s advancement and counterintuitive gameplay mechanics, this would be the best announcement they’ve ever given.

But we all know that isn’t the case so i might as well just stop right here…

Echidna

March 30th, 2013 at 4:27 pm

Exactly. We don’t need new races, weapons, story or anything else. It will only rise more problems on the way, just like creation of PSO2 produces a jumbled net of technical inconsistencies withing its gameplay systems. PSO2 was perfect in my mind, and they completely ruined that image by bringing it to reality.

I don’t see any essential improvement in storytelling ever since PS2-4, aside from huge time gap dictating difference in style, and time loops being trendy.
There was a goddamn space elf in BDSM dress. How low Sega has fallen on that day, degrading the game to filthy perverts that don’t see anything but boobs. And what was that? More ridiculous nonsense.

-Z-

March 30th, 2013 at 5:58 pm

…I was going to type an involved response to that, but I realized you’re just trippin’ balls and complaining. so it’s not worth it.

/gg renvolt. I wasn’t aware there was a corporation in the world that DOESN’T exist to make money.

ricardo> indeed, but “oracle” isn’t the name of an organization that I’m aware of. it’s that ship, that the colony fleet is named for, is it not?

isn’t it depressing watching the level of bile being spewed, riccy? with pissmoaning like these guys have been doing, it’s little wonder sega snubs the west every time. :/ one cannot help get the feeling it’s not “incompetance” but rather “backlash”. maybe these folks should go start a company and make their own MMOs so they can have something they’ll actually be satisfied by.

Meji

March 30th, 2013 at 6:10 pm

Damn, will be arriving in Tokyo on the 5th of August, so will miss this event by a few days. >_<

Echidna

March 30th, 2013 at 6:28 pm

This is peculiar. It seems that the amount of complaining is directly proportional to the amount of new content. During pure fashion/lobby updates barely anyone snorted once.

Ricardo

March 30th, 2013 at 7:34 pm

Oracle is the name of the entire ship fleet which includes the Mother Ship.

Remius

March 30th, 2013 at 8:27 pm

@-Z-

You would go as far to blame >US< for the failure of Phantasy Star in the west? You should take a step back for a change. People aren't angry because PSO2 isn't living up to unrealistic expectations, they're angry because it isn't living up to its own. People throw out every defense in the book they can possibly muster up (nostalgia, unskilled players, sequel immunity, whatever) to avoid facing this. But the difference between Western mmo players vocalizing their dislike for bad choices, and Easterns creating excuses and defenses for them is a big deal.

This game is built entirely off borrowed concepts, and almost every single one of them are poorly implemented in some way. The concepts borrowed from PSO are all half-assed. The ones from TERA are almost so badly implemented that they barely even work. Whats worse, the concepts brought over from Phantasy Star MMOs in general have all been basically forgotten. Difficulty changes, emphasis on weapons/gear, evolving techniques/PAs, racial diversity. NONE of that exists anymore.

This has little to do with SEGA wanting money or with older fans not being able to adapt. It has to do with SEGA taking older values that Phantasy Star started with and replacing them with borrowed ones. Artistic value is replaced with shameless sex appeal, depth with linearity, satisfying achievement with roulette chance failure.

Revolt

March 30th, 2013 at 8:30 pm

@-Z- Thanks for not only missing the point of those comments, but also the sarcasm.

Seink

March 31st, 2013 at 12:11 am

if its not the beast the new race, I wish for it to be a darker race ^^(something like a race that accepts and coexist with darkers, and has those spiders as pets XD). Join us!!! Join the dark side!!!! It’s your destiny! WAHAHAHAHA!!!

-Z-

March 31st, 2013 at 10:43 am

ricardo> could have sworn it was in that context the “oracle fleet”, but it’s been more than half a year since it came up, so I’ll concede memory fault.

revolt> sarcasm doesn’t tend to show well in text. usually good to fake an html tag for “end sarcasm” if you expect to not get people missing it.

Krono

March 31st, 2013 at 1:14 pm

To start, I think this is going to be promising. I mean, the game itself isn’t even close to legit endgame yet, so there should be more to come in future announcements. I mean, I would LIKE to hear them announcing they are going to edit the coding of most of the enemies on VH (or whatever new difficulty they add) to be faster moving or faster attacking, but honestly that particular subject is something I’m sure if they can fix, if we can get JP communities who agree to sign petitions and make an inquiry with the Dev. team, INSTEAD of complaining about the game having problems on every new post on a website that I’m sure the Dev. Team doesn’t read/isn’t aware of. What I just keep seeing is people complain about (get ready for this) other people complaining about their own complaining, and though I do understand the problems that y’all keep bringing up, maybe there’s something else that we all and, and that… thing called “Remius” I keep hearing about should look into doing if we really care that much about the technical inconsistencies within. But I’m quite sure there are those people (not saying any names Remius) too busy wallowing in your own pile of ‘look-at-me-I’m-being-important-by-bitching-about-everything-I-don’t-like’ and ‘it’s-not-more-progressive-than-the-previous-games-right-now-so-it’s-terrible’ to really do something about it. “Oh, SEGA doesn’t care and won’t listen” lol fuck you, I’m learning how to read/write Japanese so I can write the PSO2 Dev. Team a comprehensive letter/email/whatever about y’alls legitimate concerns about the gameplay system that I hope can be brought to awareness and be resolved. Being negative about possible positive outcomes impedes progress, that’s why whenever Edward got on PSU to address problems, and then everyone and their dogs starts shouting “SEGA doesn’t care, you suck, fix the game”, what do you think is going to happen? Learn from mistakes and move forward instead of complaining about not reaching previous successes. There should be a thread somewhere that we can compile signatures for a petition in the near future. I don’t know where to start so any suggestions? Well anyways, can’t wait till the Summer, peace! ~Krono, Ship 07

Myau

March 31st, 2013 at 4:54 pm

@Seink that would explain why the native creatures attack the cake sisters since cake goes hand and hand with the darkside

AvidLongTermGamer

March 31st, 2013 at 9:22 pm

100% agree with Krono. Does PSO2 have room for a lot of improvements? YES. Is it a terrible game. NO
Are the games issues as serious as some inflate them to be. IMO, NO. I don’t understand why the one’s constantly criticize every little thing still play. If all those things bother you so much. Go play something else. It’s that simple.

Haborim

March 31st, 2013 at 11:33 pm

@Krono&AvidLOngTermGamer

Nonononono. Don’t use LOGIC. Remius and crew want to piss and moan and do nothing to fix the problem. That’s how they roll. They’re fun to point and laugh at. Let them have their silly antics.

Haborim

March 31st, 2013 at 11:53 pm

Less flippantly: I agree. The game needs some major changes to be “perfect”, but as it is now it’s still fun. I would love to see the bosses/enemies more agressive, hit hadrer, move faster. The greater the challenge, the more frustration I feel, but ultimately the more fun I have in the end.

I have access to a gentleman that speaks/writes/reads japanese and have been using the past two player surveys to suggest ideas to the dev team. I have suggested the ability to lock a MAG at a certain evolution( that is, if you like the graphci of x, a button to stop it from changing); I asked for the inclusion of both duman, and darker-appearance mutation cosmetics; I asked for more agressive/difficult monster AIs in MPAs–higher health/damage enemies in MPAs; among many other things.

Complaining gets us NOWHERE. Stepping out of our comfort zone and engaging in discourse with other players, and the dev team if possible, will help to have our concerns heard, and possibly even listened to.

sean

April 1st, 2013 at 2:39 am

Whoa. there are more than one Remius now. Cool.

RenRen

April 1st, 2013 at 4:48 am

While I know the other planets in PSO2 have some similarities I think it would be pretty cool if the new planet had something to do with Ragol and Pioneer and show us what happened there. I would really like to more ties to the old PSO, especially since this /is/ the sequel. But maybe there is some I just haven’t gotten far enough yet. Regardless, I’m pretty excited for this update to see what it brings. :3

RenRen

April 1st, 2013 at 5:26 am

I didn’t really want to add to the arguing but wow, guys, be glad you can play this at all. Where do you get this unwarranted sense of entitlement? We’re pretty lucky that we’re able to make JP Sega IDs and play this in the first place, especially since the Western release got delayed. I for one am happy that there’s people like Ricardo updating us on announcements and stuff, cause I wouldn’t have the slightest clue how to figure this kind of stuff out otherwise. If all you want to do is complain, make your own blog.

If you don’t like the costumes, don’t buy them. Don’t like the game? Play something else. SEGA isn’t wasting time on costumes, in any game company, people that program the game (for better or worse) are on a completely different team than the artists. The artists can’t be sitting around while the programmers are fixing bugs and programing patches, SEGA is paying them to make SEGA more money, there’s nothing wrong with that, people have to make a living somehow. Besides it would be boring to walk through a lobby and have all the characters look the same.

While I would change some things about the game (no game is perfect), the only real letdowns I’ve experienced so far with the game is when my computer mouse broke, and I can’t do much in game with my touchpad, and that I didn’t get something I wanted from the FUN scratch before it changed. And neither is SEGA’s fault. :P

Para

April 1st, 2013 at 5:52 am

Did anyone find a link to the new songs/sympathy music?

Sandylecuistot

April 1st, 2013 at 8:44 am

Planet, Classes, weapon categories…
That’s something I want.
I guess there should be more balance with Photon Arts.

But Sega is already correcting Hunter’s Stance which could be really great, as well as for War cry.

I never play in multi party (only 4 players at most) and it remains kinda fun this way.

-Z-

April 1st, 2013 at 3:28 pm

Sandylecuistot> I think that’s sorta the key to keeping the game from turning into a snorefest; not trying to overwhelm it with sheer numbers. I think a lot of the “too easy” crowd are judging by what happens when you have twelve actual people in the same space, when the game is probably aimed more for half that at most in one spot. it never seems to turn into a curbstomp when I don’t have 12 in one place. only time I get that many in one place is Elder.

remius> I am bemused that you seem to be implying that sex appeal and artistic value are mutually exclusive. in between your masochistic drive to continue hanging around a game that you very clearly do not like.

Echidna

April 1st, 2013 at 4:13 pm

“Snorefest” is somehow tied with the fact that after level 20-25 you are starting to redo the same content, spare the other classes. Until level 20 its all excitement: new areas, enemies, unexpected codes, saving pilots, going to the city, pse burst, once more. Then novelty ends, you go on a second circle to find better weapon and improve speedruns.
I think it was mentioned before… a dozen of times even. H and VH doesn’t really need to have turbo superarmor berserker enemies. It would only require the same feeling of exploration, such as enemies having different unexpected moves, or codes being extra vile. Something to keep up with players, growing in abilties, levels and live experience in the game. Or something to stop 12 player parties in particular.
I’m not saying that its a games’ fault or something that should be “fixed”. Just trying to grasp the core and reason of peoples’ dissatisfaction.

No

April 1st, 2013 at 4:30 pm

Lol at RenRen

You sound like the people who Defended Bioware after Mass Effect 3 came out for everyone to see the ending.

No, this game has been ruined by the casual market, once again. “Too hard, make it easy or we take our money somewhere else”

That’s fine, but man I really just wanted a Phantasy Star Game where advancing felt like…advancing.

And missions weren’t so piss easy that you could solo Multiparty areas.

Right now the game is shit. It’s just way too damn easy with nothing to do because it always feels the same no matter what they add.

Remius

April 1st, 2013 at 7:56 pm

@-Z-

Mutually exclusive, of course not. But if you’re asking if there’s a line that can be drawn between the two, then yeah, obviously. And I can’t fathom how anyone could say there can’t. Unless you just want to play semantics and straddle the fence between hipster nudists and basement perverts.

And honestly…I do not know why I still visit this website. I’ve gone from one of the first (literally) to provide information to the english community about this game, to being its most popular hater! And it’s pretty funny. It’s always the same thing, every time. Even if you manage to get 2 people to have a fun, logical discussion and agree to disagree….the internet summons the….:

“Complaining-solves-nothing” crew

“omg SEGA r nice b greatfull” crew

“Pso/psu/pso2 is the best/worse/most broken shit ever” crew

“Nostalgia-is-my-Easybutton” crew

“wifu dollhouse” crew (I like them. They’re honest.)

“complainers=trolls” crew

“STUPID CASUAL NOOBS” crew

“defend-the-loli-culture” crew

“Ass/tits/thongs/nipplestickers = eastern fashion” crew

“F2P SO THEY NEED MOENY” crew (wins for sheer ignorance)

…And then KABOOOOMM!!! It’s like a prison yard.

Echidna

April 1st, 2013 at 8:18 pm

You forgot “Sega forgot to ask our advice” crew.

Remius

April 1st, 2013 at 9:03 pm

Depending on your angle, that already fits under “Complaining-solves-nothing” crew. Otherwise that’s basically everyone who isn’t happy with everything.

AvidLongTermGamer

April 2nd, 2013 at 1:14 am

Yeah, opinions are somehow facts that must be drilled into us that enjoy this f**king game. We just LOVE having our cheerios pissed on. Thank you so much for correcting our views Remius and Echidna. We will now stop playing because both of you and a few others have totally conviced us that PSO2 is shyte and that it’s not worth our time to play and enjoy at all! *sarcasm*

Remius

April 2nd, 2013 at 2:34 am

Damn.

I forgot the “Stop-trying-to-indoctrinate-me-by-having-an-opposing-opinion” crew.

Takuran

April 2nd, 2013 at 3:45 am

Wow, i am surprised that some of you guys who have been complaining for months still here. Look, i have nothing against it and i even agree with some of the complaints. BUT how about you gaiz go and complain it directly to SEGA instead of always throwing it all over the place here? People are just here to read update and SEGA probably doesn’t even know this place exists.

If you say you have already directed the suggestions to SEGA and they don’t give a damn then may be just stop bothering with it altogether? Making a scene here won’t help anyone nor helping the game be better.

I am like jeez, srsly, everytime…i appreciate that you guys putting effort into this to point out to us why the game sux but do it where it actually matters.

/inb4 i am listed into one of the crews

Remius

April 2nd, 2013 at 4:10 am

Too late. You qualify for “Complaining-solves-nothing” crew.

It’s a pretty vanilla position, but it has no real downsides and comes with the added benefit of ultimately being absolutely correct. In the grand scheme of it anyway.

TaigaUC

April 2nd, 2013 at 5:03 am

Phantasy Star Online 2: Code Episode 2 Announced

PSO2 Code Episode 2 (Keywords)

Intuitive Graphical User Interface
Revamped Abiltiies Useful in Unique Situations
Rebalanced and Equally Enticing Skill Trees
New Counterattack-Based Defensive Gameplay
Less Grinding and Less Drop-Based Content
Arks Hobbies, including Fishing and Racing
Life-like Skin and Eye Shaders
Reactive Emotion Facial Animation System
Customizable Costume and Hairstyle Parts
Rewritten Story with Immersive New Delivery
Vibrant Colorful Consistently-sized Textures
The Death of Dudu and Random Number Generation
Matoi’s First Steps
Coming in your Dreams!

I’d like to point out that many humans seem to be incapable of differentiating opinion from fact. It’s a self-defense mechanism that occurs when a person is presented with information that contradicts their personal beliefs. This is because it detracts from their self-confidence and makes them feel insecure. Thus, it is automatically perceived as a personal attack.

The same is true of any information that evokes other negative emotions, such as discouraging a person from enjoying something that they wish to enjoy. Humans often deny and even delude themselves into leaning towards a positive state of mind for the sake of personal happiness.

Whether the information is factual is irrelevant, and the offended person will find reasons to dismiss it, such as labelling it as “opinion”. They also often resort to attacking the deliverer of information in an attempt to delegitimize the information and portray the source as unreliable.

Those people don’t even question or understand why they react this way. To them, “it just is”, and how they personally feel is more important than anything else, even if they do not understand and cannot explain it.

There is really no point in wasting time debating or reasoning with those kinds of people, because their mind is already made up; or more accurately, their mind is so controlled by their emotions that they are incapable of seeing reason.

TaigaUC

April 2nd, 2013 at 5:10 am

In regards to the stance of “complaining solves nothing”… complaints and criticism are a necessary evil for the sake of improvement and progress.

The problem is that many people have inexperienced, un-informed, nonsensical or unreasonable complaints. As a result of that, people tend to dismiss all complaints as “whining”.

There is nothing wrong with complaints if the person complaining knows what they are talking about and is factually correct. It’s lazy and ignorant to completely dismiss all complaints, and negatively affects society as a whole.

AvidLongTermGamer

April 2nd, 2013 at 5:54 am

And then there’s the “make up dismissive ad hominum labels about other posters” crew and the “assume everyone should agree with my point of view because it’s superior to all others” crew.

Takurannyan

April 2nd, 2013 at 6:23 am

Complaining or voicing your opinions does in fact solve something sometimes, but people are doing it in the wrong place. Unless you guys really think do it here will change anything beside attracting flamer. I wouldn’t say this if it is the first time this happened. Have those posts actually produced anything useful for the game? Or it just makes more and more flaming wars everytime? I am not entirely sure the purpose. Is it that you want to warn people that this game is not going anywhere and should stop wasting their time? Or is it that you want people to join force with you and voice the suggestions to SEGA?

Well i guess it’s good that you love and care for the game enough to do this everytime though.

-Z-

April 2nd, 2013 at 9:35 am

’tis less “complaining solves nothing” and more “complaining to people who have no influence over the source of your complaints solves nothing”. we can argue till the cows come home about what things we each percieve to be wrong with pso2, but nobody here has direct influence over what is done with the game. we can, at most, get help from someone who can effectively communicate in japanese to assist us in filling out the surveys/etc. However, I find it doubtful that most of us are going to have some kind of epiphany and toss out our own concerns to voice the opinons of others in such a scenario, anyway.

takurannyan, I’m not particularly sure those guys love/care for the game with the way they act. more like they love/care for the idea they had when the game was announced. unfortunately for them, no amount of user input is going to make sega scrap the game and start over to meet someone else’s expectations. :/

Haborim

April 2nd, 2013 at 9:45 am

Complaining. Solves. Nothing. Contacting the dev team through any means necessary and providing insight into what is wrong with the game is the ONLY thing that can potentially yield change. whining on a forum they dont’ even know exists will never have any impact, nor is it positive in any way.

Sandylecuistot

April 2nd, 2013 at 9:56 am

This “crew” thing is really ridiculous.
Of course you always have a point of view as soon as you understand something.
You think it’s good, bad, weird, interesting or not and so on…
Why can’t everybody give their opinion without being selfish… EVERYTIME.


I’d like to point out that many humans seem to be incapable of differentiating opinion from fact. It’s a self-defense mechanism that occurs when a person is presented with information that contradicts their personal beliefs. This is because it detracts from their self-confidence and makes them feel insecure. Thus, it is automatically perceived as a personal attack.

All of this is true.
It’s not always easy for someone to see somthing he likes being insulted, or the opposite.

And I guess, those who have trouble with the game should give their opinion directly to SEGA, as it is possible…
I think that some features in the game are weird or worse but I won’t complain about it everywhere if I’m not trying to change anything, at least, reporting my opinion to SEGA.

PSO2 evolves with time, which is not the case for other games (being online or not) and so, improvement is possible.

Just imagine a finished game you just bought which has tons of problems…
What would you do ? Nothing, because the game is finished and that’s all.

If the game disturbs you, just go away and come back after several months of update, maybe there will be some great new content you’ll like.

Let’s say there is no problem, only solutions, ah ah : P .

Echidna

April 2nd, 2013 at 9:58 am

Its not even about complaining.
Its about being the same borderline ridiculous stuff you heard before, jammed like a goddamn patephone vinyl.

“is this asian game, why they look like animes?”
“you can play as a woman, and even use different dress?”
“its been two weeks and they still didn’t make a complete overhaul of a game system!”
“psu was already twice as better at the moment. Goddamn I love PSU.”
“you can still pay in f2p game? I though we were done with this years ago.”
“sega is crazy, but huge audience of kids who didnt play pso and sexual deviants will pull it out of the water”

Yes. Yes it is, its that bad, I know. Seriously, I honestly do think like that. Can we make make an agreement that its THAT bad and move on? I see no reason to scratch the glass window any more. It does the same sound, no matter how many times you try.

koga

April 2nd, 2013 at 11:31 am

Ooh ooh ooh. What crew do I qualify for? This is exciting XD

anon

April 2nd, 2013 at 1:01 pm

Sure you can tell us to shut up and submit our complaints to the Sega dev gods individually, but that’s just implied complacent laziness. Get off your high horse. You might as well be giving the middle finger to everyone as the english community has no realistic nor convenient way of doing so. Complaining can be much like campaigning, with all it’s annoying tuppences and bumper stickers. You get the word out, gather people’s opinion and formulate a general consensus. Then maybe something can happen, till then, everyone stays at home.

Haborim

April 2nd, 2013 at 1:41 pm

…you ARE complacently lazy. I’m not just saying it, I’m fucking stating it outright. Either do something about it, or shut the fuck up. I have 0 sympathy for people that don’t make an effort to fix their problems.

Google translate, while not ideal, still works wonders for writing messages. -.-;

Plant

April 2nd, 2013 at 2:03 pm

I only visit this blog to read the comments.

You guys never disappoint.

Takurannyan

April 2nd, 2013 at 2:15 pm

@anon
>Want to gather people’s opinion and formulate a general consensus
>Raging around on a new blog comment section and not some organized forum/self-blog where it is easier

Seems legit

PSO2 Blog Visitor

April 2nd, 2013 at 3:28 pm

I used to complain endlessly about the game too, until I quit my other mmo and decided to start playing PSO2 again. This time with a premium sub. Now I am happy as a clam at high water…for the most part at least.

If you people are honestly not enjoying the game, then it’s time to take a break. Go play something else for awhile and forget about this game. PSO2 will be here if/when you decide to come back (assuming that’s within the next 5 years).

anon

April 2nd, 2013 at 4:01 pm

Already submitted my ideas thanks. Google translate, k glhf with that. and cuz people go to forums so much more amirite? It’s all hopeless to get anything started anyways since any valid criticisms of the game get shot down immediately by people like you. Must feel good to be in the hipster point and laugh crowd eh?

Remius

April 2nd, 2013 at 8:04 pm

Complaining about a game on the internet does indeed accomplish something; it tells the company you’re disappointed. It doesn’t actually get anything done when the people you’re complaining to refuse to pay you any attention. Unfortunately this is something that Sega in particular has always been notoriously efficient at.

You’d be hardpressed to find an AAA+ JP Gaming company that treats its foreign fans as bad as Sega does. In the past few years, all the biggest JP companies have taken giant strides in foreign localizations. The fans feel loved, which in turn nets them more sales. Sega picks and chooses when to do this.

Phantasy Star is probably one of Sega’s biggest 1st-Party IPs, with a history of almost non-existent community service and complete and total neglect for its localized games. For gaming companies that actually give a shit, enthusiastic complaining (Yes, on its biggest fansites) indeed matters. But seeing as they really don’t give a shit about how this game does in the West, it really doesn’t matter where you or to whom you bitch at. Sega doesn’t care either way. And that isn’t shocking; Sega hasn’t even taken the time to create an English forum on the PSO2.com website, nor have they updated it or the FB page since PAX 2012. That was 8 months ago.

TL;DR
Sega literally views its foreign localizations of PS as a lower version of its “native” one. Edward firmly established this before PSU was shut down for us. They don’t care, in English or translated Japanese. The JP players complain about this shit too and it still doesn’t get fixed.

-Z-

April 2nd, 2013 at 8:44 pm

“Complaining about a game on the internet does indeed accomplish something; it tells the company you’re disappointed.” only if you’re doing it somewhere the company will be listening and in a manner that they can understand.

psublog is neither.

and a lot of stuff that needed fixing has been fixed courtesy of those jp players, so I think you’re straying into “remius’ world” again. all you’re doing at this point is airing your complex about needing to be the center of attention.

btw? fans of capcom franchises other than monster hunter say hi. ask a rockman fan, for example, how their AAA+ JP gaming company is treating them. if nothing else it’ll expand your vocabulary’s profanity segment.

Myau

April 2nd, 2013 at 9:20 pm

profanity has raised +6 points

Rior

April 2nd, 2013 at 11:54 pm

I see ya all still noobing it up in the comments. for those who complain go make a private server and update it your self. as for me. im gonna play it weather or not its perfect for me. :D o and every one have some internet hugs (HUGGGGGGsss)

Remius

April 3rd, 2013 at 3:04 am

@-Z-

PSO-World is the biggest foreign Phantasy Star fansite for the MMO series and PSUBlog is currently the most efficient spot for foreign PSO2 news. SoA staff posted important updates on PSOW during PSU shitstorms, and PSUBlog is the 6th hit when you google “PSO2″. And i’m sure they can’t understand us just as well as we can’t understand them. Yet, here we are.

And yeah, other companies (ESPECIALLY Capcom) shit on their fanbases in some way. But Megaman is an example of IP neglect; Capcom just doesn’t like megaman. Fans worldwide are fucked.

Now find me a AAA+ JP company that continuously bothers releasing its largest IP internationally but doesn’t advertise, doesn’t update, and barely interacts with the community outside of deleting angry forum posts.

…Kinda sounds like Valkyria Chronic- owait thats Sega too LOL

umadbro

April 3rd, 2013 at 3:37 pm

Can we list a KR company? I’m pretty sure that Nexon fits your definition.

In fact…

Nexon advertises even less
Nexon updates less frequently
Nexon has less interaction with their community
Nexon is larger/higher net income than SEGA

References:
http://www.tssznews.com/2012/07/31/sega-sammy-reports-q1-net-profit-of-32-million/
http://www.insidesocialgames.com/2012/05/14/nexons-q1-net-income-hits-12-3-billion-yen-up-60-year-on-year/

Remius

April 3rd, 2013 at 4:30 pm

^Precisely. And that is exactly why PSO2 is Free-To-Play.

I hope people finally get it now.

-Z-

April 3rd, 2013 at 7:36 pm

>point out a flaw in arguement
>get told “that one doesn’t count because”
now see that’s why arguing with you is pointless. you’ll add as many qualifiers as you need to narrow things down enough to prevent disagreement.

also… do not cite google search results, ever. google tracks usage and tailors the result order to suit the user. psublog might be your sixth hit, but for someone else it may well be the sixteenth hit, or worse, off the first page of results alltogeter.

>SoA staff
>game currently run only by SoJ
hello self-defeating point. just because SoA watches doesn’t mean SoJ cares PSO-W even exists.

anyway since you’ve degenerated into “and F2P is teh evulz” mode, I think the time for debating anything with you is once more at an end. go on, continue your effort to get the last word like it means something, continue your crusade, whatever.

the solution to your problems, if your problems are as they seem to be “sega is evil” and “nothing sega does will ever be good again”, to go find a PSO1 pserv and play in peace.

umad> it is certainly interesting that in spite of their legacy of fail, nexon manages to make so much money. exactly what it is they’re doing right to cause that to happen amid everything they’re doing wrong is surely one of the secrets to success.

Remius

April 4th, 2013 at 7:12 pm

Oh, -Z-. Your attempts to pick my arguments apart are getting pretty desperate.

>Point out “flaw” in argument that alludes to a previous point
>Call it a “Flaw” anyway

It doesn’t count because it strengthens what I’ve been stressing; PSO2 only wishes to strengthen the effectiveness of its new F2P model at the expense of every aspect of decent gameplay. Hence, Sega can now do what horrendously failed with PSU, piss everyone off, and still turn a huge profit because it’s switched to a model that rewards mediocrity. And just so this doesn’t fly over your head too (like everything else does), I made it very clear, Sega is no stranger to consumer neglect. Just so happens, the Korean F2P model is notorious among gamers for doing this (LIKE NEXON), and gloriously famous among publishers for it’s ability to PROFITABLY get away with it. (LIKE NEXON.) Umadbro might not have intended to make that point, but there you go.

Remius

April 4th, 2013 at 7:13 pm

>just because SoA watches doesn’t mean SoJ cares PSO-W even exists.

…How the hell is that a self-defeating point? That >>>IS<<< my point, do you even pay attention to what you type anymore? That renders the neglect indefensible; they know because SoA knows, they just don't care. Which is exactly what my previous post was about. And in case that flew over your head as well : companies that release internationally DO listen to opinions of foreign fans because their interests are different, and pleasing them means it sells better. Sega does not do this because they don't care, and never have — they treat Phantasy Star localizations like little revenue experiments. Which piggybacks off my previous point. MMO developers that AREN'T korean grindwhore publishers have begun moving away from that mentality, except for Sega who just wants to emulate them.

It's like trying to reason with a brick wall. Despite anyone's angle, your knee-jerk defense is to discredit a position by stereotyping them into "F2P Hater", or "PSO1 Lover", or "Sega Hater" or something else equally pointless the the argument.

-Z-

April 4th, 2013 at 8:07 pm

funny, “brick wall” is up there with “masochist” and “troll” in terms of others describing what they see reading your posts. might as well add a few more buzzwords to your list of ways to attempt to discredit anyone who says you’re wrong.

Remius

April 4th, 2013 at 9:53 pm

Fair enough. But unlike these “others”, i don’t need to resort to such simple cop-outs in order to prove a point. And i guess that where you and I differ. You’d rather try to poke holes into conversations to save face instead of actually converse.

So how about we just screw eachother already and get this over with

AvidLongTermGamer

April 5th, 2013 at 2:21 am

Wow. Just. wow.

Rock Eazywood

April 5th, 2013 at 3:40 am

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!! REMIUS STILL SHUNNIN’ EM AND STUNNIN’ EM!

AvidLongTermGamer

April 5th, 2013 at 4:23 am

Remius needs his own blog. He can brow beat readers with his diatribes there for a change.

Remius

April 5th, 2013 at 4:53 am

O U KNO HOW IT BE DAWG

U KNO HOW IT B

AvidLongTermGamer

April 5th, 2013 at 5:54 am

Very immature Rock Eazywood and Remius. Neither of you are funny. At all.

Echidna

April 5th, 2013 at 1:37 pm

PSO2 is just that hardcore.
If you can’t handle the heat, you are free to play more friendly game.
free to play
heh
heheheh

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